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Offline Ochotona

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What's your Lightroom Work Flow?
« on: October 14, 2014, 06:32:56 PM »
I finally got LR5.6 installed and now I'm wondering what you all do with it.  I mean I know what most features do and why to use them, I'm just wondering what your typical procedure is.

Here's what I think I'd do after importing a new shot:

Adjust WB if necessary, adjust overall Exposure and Contrast and then fine tune with Whites, Blacks, Highlights and Shadow, then adjust Saturation and fine tune with Clarity and Vibrance, then adjust Sharpness and NR, and finally apply Lens Correction (although I wonder if I should do this first?).  That's about it unless I need to clone out something or do spot adjustments.  I frankly don't know what to do with the Tone Curve, HSL/Color/B&W, or Split Toning menus!

Am I missing important steps, or doing things out of order?

Thanks.

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Re: What's your Lightroom Work Flow?
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2014, 12:11:47 AM »
Do lens correction first!

I do things in a similar order except use PS to sharpen/plugins for NR and also for any curve changes etc.

I also do any dodging and burning in PS, I know I should be able to do this in LR, but I can never seem to get the same look or feel with it...
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Re: What's your Lightroom Work Flow?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2014, 07:07:45 AM »
My only change I would offer, would be to sharpen last.  This mostly applies to changes that will affect your overall size (cropping) or especially with NR or changes in contrast/vibrance, etc. It's been a rule that I have seen posted by many people out there that do this for a living.  I have to admit, I actually noticed a difference when I started using that method and have stuck to it ever since.
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Re: What's your Lightroom Work Flow?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2014, 09:05:01 AM »
Thanks Z and D!  Two good tips.  I'll lens correct first and sharpen last.

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Re: What's your Lightroom Work Flow?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2014, 11:43:33 AM »
Thanks Z and D!  Two good tips.  I'll lens correct first and sharpen last.
I concur with sharpening last - that's typically where I will put it as well.
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Re: What's your Lightroom Work Flow?
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2014, 01:49:22 PM »
Mine goes something like:

1) Take RAW shot with 70D
2) Load up into Lightroom 4
3) Curse at the PC and camera since LR4 does not work with RAW images from the 70D
4) Turn everything off and give up.

Its been like this for a year now.
I edit a few jpegs now and then but other than that we seem to be at a stalemate.
I know the answer is LR5 but I just can't be arsed to buy it, install it, learn it, etc etc.
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Re: What's your Lightroom Work Flow?
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2014, 02:58:35 PM »
Mine goes something like:

1) Take RAW shot with 70D
2) Load up into Lightroom 4
3) Curse at the PC and camera since LR4 does not work with RAW images from the 70D
4) Turn everything off and give up.

Its been like this for a year now.
I edit a few jpegs now and then but other than that we seem to be at a stalemate.
I know the answer is LR5 but I just can't be arsed to buy it, install it, learn it, etc etc.
That really sucks...

To be fair, the installing and learning parts are easy as there is very few drastic changes between 4 and 5 - the buying/parting with the money is the hard part :P
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Re: What's your Lightroom Work Flow?
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2014, 04:05:23 PM »
Mine goes something like:

1) Take RAW shot with 70D
2) Load up into Lightroom 4
3) Curse at the PC and camera since LR4 does not work with RAW images from the 70D
4) Turn everything off and give up.

Its been like this for a year now.
I edit a few jpegs now and then but other than that we seem to be at a stalemate.
I know the answer is LR5 but I just can't be arsed to buy it, install it, learn it, etc etc.

Ha ha!  Thanks.  Very helpful.   I can save you a little time by suggesting that you skip steps 1-3 and go straight to 4.  :P

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Re: What's your Lightroom Work Flow?
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2014, 06:51:06 PM »
This is a very difficult and personal usage question, which may take you a long time to figure out what you like best.  It is still taking me a long time to figure out, but have narrowed down a few things within the past few years.  For me, the first thing I do is lens correction followed by noise reduction if over 400 ISO(on my camera body and depending on the lens I used).  After all that I work from top to down.  White Balance - I shoot in RAW auto WB and rarely change anything.  When working on a photo, I always click the shadow and highlight clipping tabs, then work from there.  One thing I have been following up on and trying with Lightroom , although recommended for landscaping shots, is to lower highlights to -100 and up shadows to +100, then work on the Tone Curve to make adjustments while keeping an eye on your Histogram clippings.  Like others have said, sharpening is the last thing I do most of the time - only because other people have said it should be the last thing you do.  However, I have made a lot of adjustments in LR after sharpening-which goes back to my first sentence.

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Re: What's your Lightroom Work Flow?
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2014, 12:29:57 PM »
Thanks Suka.  Interesting that you do NR early on.  I'll have to look into that.  And tip on highlights and shadow too.

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Re: What's your Lightroom Work Flow?
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2014, 01:30:56 PM »
Thanks Suka.  Interesting that you do NR early on.  I'll have to look into that.  And tip on highlights and shadow too.
I didn't include a lot of my steps purely because I do a lot in PS... I do a lot of my base work in LR, then shift to PS where I do my dodging and burning, NR, sharpening, curves etc - I just find that PS is easier to do that sort of thing with...
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Re: What's your Lightroom Work Flow?
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2014, 11:37:59 AM »
A bit late to this show, and I must say I have learned some things from you all.  Doodle the Sharpening last, I will start checking that out.

I do not like to type long sets of instructions, so I created a short movie showing my basic work flow.  It is on a test shot so was not the greatest subject but works.

http://screencast.com/t/7p23qMoK

I left something out in video so I will post another short one here in a minute or two.  It deals with NR and something I picked up from Skippy from Noise in a photo in general.

Hope this helps!
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Re: What's your Lightroom Work Flow?
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2014, 06:53:08 PM »
A bit late to this show, and I must say I have learned some things from you all.  Doodle the Sharpening last, I will start checking that out.

I do not like to type long sets of instructions, so I created a short movie showing my basic work flow.  It is on a test shot so was not the greatest subject but works.

http://screencast.com/t/7p23qMoK

I left something out in video so I will post another short one here in a minute or two.  It deals with NR and something I picked up from Skippy from Noise in a photo in general.

Hope this helps!


I watched this vid of yours and liked it.  My main question is regarding noise reduction in LR.  Since you briefly mentioned tweaking color in NR, do you use/change any other settings within NR in Lightroom?  I have Topaz Denoise and used that for a while as a plug-in, but want to stay with LR for everything.  My problem is the LR noise reduction settings options.  I don't know what they all do-do you?   

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Re: What's your Lightroom Work Flow?
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2014, 08:06:50 PM »
Suka, I haven't tried it but I was under the impression you could access Topaz plug ins via LR?
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Re: What's your Lightroom Work Flow?
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2014, 07:45:26 AM »
Suka, I haven't tried it but I was under the impression you could access Topaz plug ins via LR?


You can if you use Fusion Express.

http://www.topazlabs.com/lightroomuser/
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