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Offline Scott S

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Canon 18-135 IS
« on: February 17, 2016, 11:14:35 AM »
ok, so I'm not sure if it's boredom or what but I've been thinking. I have the Sigma 17-50, which is a fabulous lens, and until last night had a Tamron 28-75, also a really good lens. the problem, as I was seeing it, was that they cover basically the same focal ranges, so I decided to mix it up.
this is one of the best things about buying used on ebay. I bought the 28-75 used and now have sold it basically for what I had into it, and can try something different used, and if I hate it, I can sell it and try something else.
so I was thinking, if I got rid of the 28-75, what would I get. at first I thought I'd try out the Sigma 17-70 2.8-4, and if it turned out to be stellar I might let the 17-50 go and again try something else.
I love the 17-50, but it is a bit wide for portraits where is where I usually find myself. the 17-70 would reach further, and still offer similar performance, if at the expense of losing the constant 2.8 aperture. but while I was looking last night at options someone listed a nice Canon 18-135 IS. it's probably an older kit lens, but it looks to be in good shape and I got it for around $110US shipped. they go for more, so if I hate it I can simply flip it and still go with a 17-70.
so, my questions are, does anyone here have one of these, and how do you like it?


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Re: Canon 18-135 IS
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2016, 09:14:12 AM »
This is a great lens. What it is not...is a portraiture lens. f3.5-5.6 is not a good effective range, especially since you need to zoom in to get a decent portrait and by then you are in the slower fstops which doesn't do you any favors in portraiture.
I keep this lens on my 2nd body as it is a wonderful all-around shooting lens. I wouldn't give it a glance however, if I was shooting a portrait.
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Re: Canon 18-135 IS
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2016, 02:27:11 PM »
I know it's not conventional, but I'm thinking it might work better than you might expect.
remember, this one is at f 5.6


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Re: Canon 18-135 IS
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2016, 04:55:41 PM »
This is a great lens. What it is not...is a portraiture lens. f3.5-5.6 is not a good effective range, especially since you need to zoom in to get a decent portrait and by then you are in the slower fstops which doesn't do you any favors in portraiture.
Studio work is often at f8 or slightly smaller. Environmental, with a creamy background, I agree with ya Sir Doodle.
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Re: Canon 18-135 IS
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2016, 08:41:32 PM »
This is a great lens. What it is not...is a portraiture lens. f3.5-5.6 is not a good effective range, especially since you need to zoom in to get a decent portrait and by then you are in the slower fstops which doesn't do you any favors in portraiture.
Studio work is often at f8 or slightly smaller. Environmental, with a creamy background, I agree with ya Sir Doodle.

Good call Craig. Totally forgot studio stuff. The only portraiture stuff I've done (admittedly limited!) has been either outdoors or the room was large enough I was able to get the bokeh I was trying for with a quick fstop.
Thanks for the assist.
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Re: Canon 18-135 IS
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2016, 01:22:37 AM »
this one is at f8:


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Re: Canon 18-135 IS
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2016, 09:28:54 AM »
I know it's not conventional, but I'm thinking it might work better than you might expect.
remember, this one is at f 5.6

No, not for me. I prefer a much more softened background to the point that you can't distinguish what the background is.
In this case I see what looks like a parking lot and a tree line behind it. If I am looking closely enough at that..I am not focusing on the faces.
Like this for example. I only took a quick shot of my daughter in law because she just got her hair cut and I happened to have my camera with me  (pretty much all the time now). It wasn't planned but I knew I could knock the aperture enough to give me the blurred background I want.  (1/250th @ f2.8, ISO 100) I had on my 70-200 f2.8 at around 130mm.
As Craig noted (and your shot of the little one)...it isn't as important indoors but out? Yea...I think it is and that 18-135 just doesn't do it for me (or at least how I shoot).
However..that 18-135 is a killer all around lens for walkabouts.  I don't think you can go wrong with that lens for the price. I have other lens that cover that spectrum but I refuse to get rid of mine. It's just too versatile for me. It will be my lead lens when I go down to Florida in a couple of weeks!
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Re: Canon 18-135 IS
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2016, 12:45:28 PM »
135 at 5.6 might be pretty good for portraits in many situations, but it's never going to beat a 2.8 lens.  Unfortunately there just isn't a perfect lens in this sort of zoom range.  I'd LOVE a 15-135 f2.8, but there isn't anything out there.  The 18-135 is on my list of possible do it all/walk around lenses along with the 15-85 5.6 and the 17-55 2.8, but they all have shortcomings.

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Re: Canon 18-135 IS
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2016, 01:02:04 PM »
135 at 5.6 might be pretty good for portraits in many situations, but it's never going to beat a 2.8 lens.  Unfortunately there just isn't a perfect lens in this sort of zoom range.  I'd LOVE a 15-135 f2.8, but there isn't anything out there.  The 18-135 is on my list of possible do it all/walk around lenses along with the 15-85 5.6 and the 17-55 2.8, but they all have shortcomings.

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Re: Canon 18-135 IS
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2016, 02:03:31 PM »
keeping in mind, I do still have the fabulous 17-50 2.8. this isn't going to be my everything lens, but for studio, and walking around at my bike rides and birthday parties etc, I'm hoping I'll be pleased. my only worry is it isn't rates nearly as sharp as my 17-50, or the 17-70 I was looking at, but if I hate it, I can always sell it.

135 on the crop sensor is like a 200. you get some shallowness in DOF just from the focal length.

this is at 6.3, and I don't have any particular feel that it needed to be more shallow.


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Re: Canon 18-135 IS
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2016, 04:34:24 PM »
I like the shot but again, I can see the guy(s) standing behind him. That (strictly my opinion here) is more of a snapshot than portraiture because of that.  It still pulls the eyes away from the subject. 
Again, just my 1.5 cents (adjusted for inflation).
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Re: Canon 18-135 IS
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2016, 05:13:23 PM »
there, I fixed it!

« Last Edit: February 19, 2016, 05:57:35 PM by Scott S »

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Re: Canon 18-135 IS
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2016, 05:15:46 PM »
but seriously, if this were to have been a portrait I was planning on selling to someone it wouldn't have been taken standing in a group of people milling around. look again and think about if this had been in a park and all that was behind him were trees, it would be plenty shallow.
again, it's not going to be perfect for everything, but it might be fun to play with and see how it does do.

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Re: Canon 18-135 IS
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2016, 04:19:54 PM »
well, it's here. these aren't meant to be artistically taken, just a couple quickies to make sure it works.



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Re: Canon 18-135 IS
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2016, 12:18:52 PM »
I see images.  It works!   ;D