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Author Topic: [Video Comparison] Onboard vs. External Mic w/ Canon & Magic Lantern Firmwares  (Read 7513 times)

Offline Ryan

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Ryan's T2i Tips and Reviews - Onboard Mic vs. ATR-3350 Lav vs Rode VideoMic


« Last Edit: January 30, 2011, 07:25:47 PM by Ryan »
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Wow that's a so awesome Video! I rolled on the floor when you waited for the Hissing Sound XD It was also fun to see and hear our beloved Admin ;-) You have to go on with the " Ryan's T2i Tips and Reviews" Series. Maybe we could start a Tutorial Section where the user can ask for tutorials or post own Tutorials.
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That's a good idea.  I made it pretty quick this morning.  I think I'll have a lot more fun doing these if I drink beers while doing the tests/tips/reviews.  The next one should be slightly more off the wall.  It'll probably cover slow motion.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2011, 07:35:48 PM by Ryan »
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I´m looking forward to it. I also think the Videos will draw attention to the Forum.
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Excellent video! I am not ready to get into the video and sound end of my t2i but I am sure at some point I will. When that day comes I will most certainly refer back to this. I respond best to things that I can see with my eyes vs just reading an opinion.

Good job and looking forward to other videos.
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Thanks.  I honestly think that for $17, the audio technica lav mic worked absolutely awesome with the Magic Lantern software.  It sounds a little bassy but I'm sure I could improve the sound if I fiddle around in post.

The only problem with the lav mic is that it doesn't have a battery or on/off indicator so you have to remember to turn it on each time before you use and turn it back off after.  As for having no battery indicator, it's kind of a gamble because you'll never know when the battery will run out.  Hopefully it's not during an important shoot!

Other than that though, it's awesome!
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For some Odd reason I think the Rode Mic actually sounds worse then the lavalier mic, I think the added bass actually sounds good. What environment were you in that you recorded the audio ?

I would assume if it was a closed room the acoustics would bounce off the walls and have something to do with the lavalier mic. I also thought that the canon firmware with the rode mic sounded better then with the magic lantern firmware with the rode mic (sounded too far away, maybe cause its a shotgun mic)

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Yes!  That was the problem, the mic was on the camera and a good 6 feet away.  I didn't have anyone to help me.  I'm going to conduct another more controlled test where someone holds the rode just out of frame. 

I was in my basement, not really a closed room.
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Yes!  That was the problem, the mic was on the camera and a good 6 feet away.  I didn't have anyone to help me.  I'm going to conduct another more controlled test where someone holds the rode just out of frame. 

I was in my basement, not really a closed room.

Hey i got a question, i think this is posted on the forum not sure if i get the magic latern updates will it change all the settings i have in my camera now? right now i have the canon update the latest one,  and far as the ATR-3350 Lavalier mic, i noticed they have cords so my subjects thats moving i would have to be closer due to the cord restriction, (thought they were wireless) and another thing, what if i wanted to attach 4 mic set up to my subjects?

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The cord for the lab mic is pretty long at 20 feet. For 4 audio sources, you might need an external audio recorder (ex. Zoom h4n - 4 channels) to capture all sources.  I could be wrong though.  Maybe someone who's done this could chime in. 

If it were two, you could have each lav go into a 2 mono to one stereo adapter.  Each source would the be on its own left/right channel.

« Last Edit: January 07, 2011, 10:00:04 AM by Ryan »
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Sweet, a1ex, who's been working on the development of the Magic Lantern firmware for this camera just put this video on the wiki page at Magic Lantern Firmware Wiki - 550D/UserGuide.

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« Last Edit: January 07, 2011, 10:16:53 AM by Ryan »
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Sweet, a1ex, who's been working on the development of the Magic Lantern firmware for this camera just put this video on the wiki page at Magic Lantern Firmware Wiki - 550D/UserGuide


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Like you mentioned earlier, this could help drive more t2i users to the site which is a great thing for everyone!
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congrats!

hey ryan do you have any videos on youtube or vimeo that you have done with your camera

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congrats!

hey ryan do you have any videos on youtube or vimeo that you have done with your camera


I've only made 3 other videos besides this one with the t2i (in order of when I created them)...

Next Casting Audition for Michael Dowse's Goon


Birth of the Caesar Cocktail - Westin Hotel, Downtown Calgary, Alberta


T2i / 550D + Cotton Candy Productions Steadicam Snowboard Test


You can tell I'm slowly improving.  At least I hope you can tell, hahaha.
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